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Feb. 13th, 2007

09:43 am - Thoughts on political correctness

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From:mavjop
Date:February 13th, 2007 10:40 pm (UTC)
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Oh, totally agree. If you don't share the beliefs of the person making an argument and if those beliefs are the foundation (lemmas) of the argument, then of course you don't have to be swayed by their argument.

That said, you can still listen to them and note have respect for the fact that they explained very well (i.e. being articulate) what their reasoning was for getting from point A (lemmas) to point Z (conclusion), and that their logic was sound, given A, even if you don't accept A as a starting point, and thus do not accept their conclusion, Z.

What I'm trying to do is separate "clarity of expression" along with use of logical argument, and "ability to sway me to their way of thinking". The former is being articulate. The latter may require the former (or may rely on charisma), but is by no means an absolutely necessary product of the latter.
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From:urox
Date:February 13th, 2007 10:56 pm (UTC)
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But I *don't* want to listen to someone where I disagree with the premise or lemma. That's the foundation of a straw man argument.
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From:mavjop
Date:February 13th, 2007 11:54 pm (UTC)
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That is an acceptable attitude. Your not listening doesn't change the fact that their argument may be articulate and/or logical, though.
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